Soviet Union Soviet Union (1943)
Heavy tank – 148 built

A humble stopgap

By the mid-war, the KV-1 could be considered outdated. Its 76 mm (3 in) gun was not as effective as it was in the early war. The Soviet Union needed a new heavy tank comparable to the later models of the Panzer IV or the Tiger. In 1943, Kotin’s famous technical bureau was split in two – one half was to work on a KV based heavy tank stopgap, and the other was to work on the KV-13 project. The team had already worked tirelessly on the KV-1S that, whilst produced in large numbers, was largely hated by tank crews and officers because it attempted to be as fast as the T-34, but have armor as strong as the KV-1, something that was impossible. The typical Soviet heavy tank certainly needed a new gun, and the KV-13 was to be the answer to this, but a stopgap was needed in the meantime.

A KV-85 showing off its 85mm gun
A KV-85 showing off its 85 mm (3.35 in) gun.

Design process

Whilst many self-propelled guns with higher caliber guns developed at this time (such as the SU-85) were being produced in large numbers, there was long standing work on replacing the aging KV-1. By 1943, there were 21 heavy tank designs that had been created, but they all almost faced cancellation from Stalin because of the scathing reports produced about the KV-1’s inadequate gun and poor mobility, which cost the Red Army dearly. The KV-1S made matters worse because it was a vastly substandard tank that tried to balance two opposing traits – armor and speed. Despite reports from experienced commanders such as General P.A. Romistrov, Stalin did not cancel all heavy tank production. This was thanks to lobbying from the NKTP (People’s Commissariat of the Tank Industry of the USSR), and the need to combat new German heavy and medium tanks, which was becoming more and more evident as the war progressed.

The need to hasten the deployment of heavy tanks led Kotin to divide his TsKB-2 bureau in two. The first team chose to improve the stopgap KV-1S, whereas the second team began work on the new KV-13 headed by N.V. Tseits. Tseits’ vehicle would later develop into the IS-85, a much better balance between speed and armor.

The original KV-85 design was very different to the one eventually chosen. This was the KV-85G – a slightly modified KV-1S with an 85 mm (3.35 in) S-53 gun jammed in a KV-1S cast turret. It appears that only one prototype was made and was deemed unsatisfactory. This is almost certainly due to the lack of space for the crew and gun. Fortunately, the IS-85 turret was available by this time, but the IS chassis was not. Due to long, technical delays in IS-85 production, along with urgent requests for more heavy tanks with an even heavier armament, a new tank was made by taking a further modified KV-1S chassis and sticking an IS-85 turret on top. At least two other prototype vehicles using different 85 mm experimental guns (including the D-5T and a modified ZiS-5 gun, now 85 mm instead of 76 mm/3 in) were put into comparative tests with the new KV-85 (with IS-85 turret). The KV-85G design had already been rejected because of a lack of internal turret space. The KV-85 with IS-85 turret was deemed the most suitable for production.

On August 8th, shortly after these trials, the KV-85 was accepted for service by the State Defense Committee, and Resolution 3891 led to 148 KV-85s being produced as a stopgap from September to December at Chelyabinsk. The fifth crew member (the radio operator) was no longer needed because of demands for larger ammunition racks, containing 70 rounds, as well as the size of the gun breech.

Technical drawing of a KV-85
Technical drawing of a KV-85.

The KV-85 had the same engine as its predecessors and weighed 46 tons, with armor thickness of 60 mm/2.36 in (hull), 75 mm/2.95 in (frontal glacis), to 100-110 mm/3.94-4.33 in (turret front, sides and rear). Top speed was around 40 km/h (29 mph) and range 250 km (155 mi). The D-5T gun was a shorter derivative of the original 85 mm (3.35 in) AA gun (792 m/s or 2,598 ft/s muzzle velocity) and was considered an absolute killer. However, it was much cheaper to make, and a lot less technically impressive.

The KV-85G prototype. It is distinguishable as it has a hull DT visible and no enlarged commander's viewport, as seen on the IS-85 turret
The KV-85G prototype. It is distinguishable as it has a hull DT visible and no enlarged commander’s viewport, as seen on the IS-85 turret.

A KV-122 is inspected by senior Soviet officers in 1943, note the shorter gun and more distinguishable double-baffle muzzle-brakeA KV-122 is inspected by senior Soviet officers in 1943, note the shorter gun and more distinguishable double-baffle muzzle-brake
A KV-122 with the S-41 howitzer is inspected by senior Soviet officers in 1943, note the shorter gun and more distinguishable double-baffle muzzle-brake.

KV-85 variants

Only 148 of this promising intermediate model were built before the IS-1 was introduced. It led to four variants.

The KV-85G was the early competitor, which almost entered production, as mentioned earlier. It was simply a KV-1S with an 85 mm gun.

The KV-122 (1943), KV-100 (1944) and KV-122 (Object 239) (1944) were all prototype derivatives armed with a short 122 mm (4.8 in) howitzer (for indirect fire support), a long 100 mm (3.94 in), and a 122 mm (4.8 in) built and tested in 1943-44. They were never accepted into mass production, but they served as test-beds for the IS-2, which would go on to use the long 122 mm gun. Testing weapons for future tanks on similar chassis that were already available was common practice with Soviet tank designs, and certainly sped up the IS-2 design process.

A sideview of the KV-85. Here, the shape of the KV-1S hull is clear, but the IS-85 turret is even more obvious with its unique rear DT mount and commander's viewport
A sideview of the KV-85. Here, the shape of the KV-1S hull is clear, but the IS-85 turret is even more obvious with its unique rear DT mount and commander’s viewport.

In action

Combat of the few KV-85s was both limited and mixed. On paper, a KV tank with the infamous D-5T gun (as used on the SU-85 tank destroyer and to be used on the iconic T-34/85) sounds like a horrific opponent for the Wehrmacht, but this was not the reality of war. Whilst the larger gun was generally met well, the overall combat effectiveness of the tank was not, mostly due to the chassis. It was simply unreliable, the armor was still poor, and even despite some adjustments, it could not consistently withstand shells of a caliber of 75 mm (2.95 in) or greater. This is particularly important, as the KV-85 was used as a breakthrough tank, and the Wehrmacht was now fielding high caliber guns to counter the Red Army’s previously near-invulnerable tanks. In one engagement in the Ukraine in November, 1943, the 34th Guards Heavy Regiment was repulsed with the loss of one third of its KV-85s by fire from Panzer IVs and Marder IIs. However, it could be argued that tactical factors influenced the level of losses faced by the Regiment and it is worth noting that a German counterattack was beaten off the next day with no Soviet casualties.

It was still noted that better protection was needed against even long-range enemy fire. It is evident that the tank itself simply did not pass the brutal quality control of war in 1943, but one must remember that the KV-85 was only a mere stop-gap to fill in for the slow development of the IS-1. Overall, the KV-85 was built in too few numbers to influence the war, but it certainly proved the need for IS tank production. Both the IS-1 and KV-85 were put up against the Tiger tank, but it was the IS-1 which proved itself more capable because of its modern chassis. IS-1/IS-85 production began the following year.

A KV-122 prototype. Notice how similar it looked to the IS-2MKV-1S in the Kubinka tank museumRear view of a KV-85

An article by Wilkerrs

Links

The KV-1 (generic) on Wikipedia

KV-85 specifications

Dimensions (L-w-h) 8.49 x 3.25 x 2.87 m (27.85 x 10.66 x 9.42 ft)
Total weight, battle ready 50.7 tons (111,800 lbs)
Crew 4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader)
Propulsion 12 cyl, 45 l, Mikulin, 600 hp V-2
Speed (road/off-road) 35 km/h (21.7 mph)
Range 160 km (100 mi)
Armament 85 mm (3.34 in) D-5T gun (60 rounds)
3 x DT 7.62 mm (0.3 in) machine-guns
Armor 20 to 100 mm (0.79-3.4 in)
Total production 148
KV-85, unknown unit of the Guards, Eastern Prussia, December 1943.
KV-85, unknown unit of the Guards, Eastern Prussia, December 1943.

KV-85, unknown unit, eastern Prussia, fall 1944.
KV-85, unknown unit, eastern Prussia, fall 1944.

KV-85 of the 1452nd SP gun regiment, Crimea, April 1944.
KV-85 of the 1452nd SP gun regiment, Crimea, April 1944.

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8 Responses to KV-85

  1. Jo says:

    On the first picture with the Tiger, it is NOT a KV-85, it is a KV.1s!

  2. Wagner says:

    Dimensions (L-w-h) 8.49 x 2.87 x 3.25 m (27.85 x 9.42 x 10.66 ft)
    It is a very tall tank for russia

  3. GBE says:

    in the article you write 46 tons strong, top speed around 40kmh, and range of 250km. But in the specifications section, its written 50.7, 35kmh and 160km respectively. so which one is it?

    • Willkerrs says:

      It seems as though there’s just been a mistake in using tons and tonnes. However, it’s quite difficult to nail down the exact figures. There’s a lot of difference given in sources. This article was written back before the team had access to modern Russian sources.

      Perhaps the go-to source is “Soviet Tanks and Combat Vehicles of World War Two” by Steven Zaloga and James Grandsen. Whilst some might criticize it for being outdated (published in 1984), it remains, to this day, arguably the most credible English source on Soviet vehicles of WW2, especially on all of the little known prototypes. I would trust what it says on most things. Cross referencing generally reveals that there’s little actually wrong with the book.
      According to Zaloga – Weight: 46 tonnes [50.7 tons], Top Speed: 40km/h, Range: 250km (road), 180km (off-road).
      These are the figures i’d go with until anything further can be dug out.

      Then we have modern sources which suggest otherwise… “Russian Tanks of World War Two, Stalin’s Armoured Might” by Tim Bean and Will Fowler (2002) gives the following – Weight: 50.7 tons (46,000kg), Top speed: 35km/h, Range: 160km. Most serious Soviet ‘experts’ will agree that this book is full of inaccuracies, and it also doesn’t give any source citation.
      AFV Weapons Profile #17 (circa 1970) suggest: Weight: 45 tons, Speed: No data, Range: 329km. This is really rather outdated, and I don’t trust it.
      Unfortunately, Jane’s doesn’t tell us anything. Zaloga’s “KV-1 & 2 Heavy Tanks 1939-1945″(1995) just gives a passing mention. None of our Russian sources give figures, either, just passing references – “KV Kliment Voroshilov” (Kolom 22) and “Heavy Tank IS”.

  4. Wulfe says:

    There’s no such thing as a KV-152. The images you have labeled as such are actually KV-1S’s with 122mm S-41 howitzers installed

  5. Mendur says:

    KV-85, unknown unit of the Guards, Eastern Prussia, December 1943.
    Title on the tank wrong. Must be “Александр Невский”

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